What: ASED
 Where: http://home.t-online.de/home/andreas.sievers/asedhome.htm 
 Description: Tcl/Tk 8.x , BWidget IDE allowing editing of multiple Tcl files,
        providing syntax highlighting, indentation support, search/replace,
        unlimited undo/redo, simple console, fast source code navigation and
        Tcl testing.  Includes a client/server example, to allow you to run
        ased, or other clients, remotely.
        Currently at v2.0.8.
 Updated: 01/2000
 Contact: mailto:andreas.sievers@t-mobil.de  (Andreas Sievers)

 What: EDITT(ASED french version)
 Where: http://www.larochelle-innovation.com/tcltk/editt/ 
 Description: Tcl/Tk 8.x , Based on ASED with lot of improvements. Freewraped 
        and Starkit versions are available. For french speaking tclers only.
        Currently at v1.0.3
 Updated: 04/2003
 Contact: mailto:david@larochelle-innovation.com  (David Zolli aka Kroc)
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''[escargo] 25 Apr 2003'' - If there are a lot of improvements to ASED in EDITT, is there some
reason they have not been provided back to the ASED developers for inclusing in a
newer version of ASED?
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''[kroc] 26 Apr 2003'' - The first reason is that Andreas doesn't include them in Ased.
The second is that I remove some ASED features and I add others , so it's really a choice
to work with ASED or EDITT now. The third reason is that some improvements are for french
only. For example, calling french Tcl help by pressing the F1 key. Last reason, but not least, I'm not fluent enought in english to translate it back now ;^).
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26apr03 [jcw] - I've uploaded an updated ASED 2.0.9.9 to [sdarchive] (with minor tweaks to turn it into a starkit).  I'd vote in favor of bringing ASED and EDITT back into one development stream if possible, and I may be able to help with the French <-> English part of things.  My first concern would be to do it in such a way that it can be sustained for future revs too.  Little point in merging if things are going to diverge again anyway....

''[escargo] 26 Apr 2003'' - There are many reasons to fork development of something that is open
source.  One interesting issue with ASED is how to do internationalization.
(See [i18n - Writing for the world].)
Maybe ASED could be refactored in a way to allow internationalization, and not just split into
English and French versions.

There are also interesting issues of how to do customizations. Could the changes that make ASED
and EDITT different be refactored in a way to allow any user to customize ASED so that features
can be added and/or removed in a safe way?  (This makes me think of the Eclipse [IDE].)
This would allow the EDITT to have its own personality without requiring a code fork.
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''[kroc] 26 Apr 2003'' - I've already done a tclkit of EDITT, I'll upload it ASAP. Of
course, it would be a very good thing to rewrite it using msgcat to make translation
very easy, but I haven't enougth time to do it right now.

In fact, at the beginning I've only translate ASED for Andreas. I quickly sent him some
improvements (mainly about little bugs). But Andreas stopped answer me and (I think) even
stopped at all his work on ASED. That's the reason why I decide to split ASED and EDITT.

Concerning differences between ASED and EDITT : I removed the console window (I would
like to use an embeded tkcon instead). I also removed the client/server because nobody
I know use (or understand) it. E. Grolleau add a MRU list and M. Salvagnac add contextual
help. He also translate tcl/tk manpages into french html files that we share and use with
EDITT.

I totaly agree we you to restart a real collaborative development, maybe using somes kinds
of ''plugins'' in order to respect ASED and EDITT differences ?
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