=== Amazon reference; [http://www.amazon.com/Tcl-Toolkit-Addison-Wesley-Professional-Computing/dp/032133633X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1234789035&sr=1-1] Authors: [John Ousterhout] (1st edition material), [Ken Jones] (2nd edition material) Paperback: 816 pages Publisher: Addison-Wesley Professional; 2 edition (August 10, 2009) Language: English ISBN-10: 0-321-33633-X ISBN-13: 978-0-321-33633-0 Copyright: 2010 Book web site: http://www.tcltk-book.com/ === See also: http://www.informit.com/store/product.aspx?isbn=032133633X for a table of contents, sample chapter, and description. and reviews, etc. at http://www.amazon.com/Tcl-Toolkit-2nd-John-Ousterhout/dp/032133633X/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1252412433&sr=1-2 See [http://www.bookfinder.com/search/?author=&title=&lang=en&isbn=0-321-33633-X&submit=Begin+search&new_used=*&destination=us¤cy=USD&mode=basic&st=sr&ac=qr] for a search of more than a dozen online bookstores for this book. ---- ***Discussion brought from [BOOK Tcl and the Tk Toolkit] page*** ---- There is work afoot in early 2005 to update this book with a second edition. Jeff Hobbs announced at the [Thirteenth Annual Tcl/Tk Conference] that this book is on the way and will include up-to-date knowledge on Tcl/Tk 8.5. The rewrite is done by Ken Jones. ---- [DWW] Amazon.com is showing the second edition to be released July 2007. ([LV] That release date changed over the past two years. However, it appears as if the book may in fact be available now in 2009.) [SYStems] and here is the link [http://www.amazon.com/TCL-Toolkit-Addison-Wesley-Professional-Computing/dp/032133633X/sr=8-2/qid=1157277966/ref=sr_1_2/104-9606192-7180732?ie=UTF8&s=books], but I find it very weird, as far as I know John Ousterhout is no longer involved with Tcl, at least he is not contributing any code. So on what basis will he make a new version of this book, and why around the end of 2007, is it so to include Tile and OO? Finally I believe if John Ousterhout got re-engaged working on Tcl it might help a lot in Tcl marketing. He is high profile! [LV] 2007 August 10 Well, today I searched Amazon.com and the previously mentioned link is now dead, and no second edition of the book appears on that site. So, I next went to http://www.awprofessional.com/ (which apparently is really just a redirect to http://www.informit.com). They show 3 books when searching for Tcl. Practical Programming, Effective Tcl/Tk Programming, and the PostgreSQL Developer's handbook. No new editions of any of these are listed. Their "other things you might like" sidebar lists a java book, a web tech book, and a networking book. All of which are several years old. Well here is the link again [http://www.amazon.com/TCL-Toolkit-Addison-Wesley-Professional-Computing/dp/032133633X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1208997703&sr=1-1]. There are a number of sites now showing this, including Amazon UK and so on. The ISBN number is ISBN-10: 032133633X, ISBN-13: 978-0321336330. Still nothing on the AW Professional website. Ok, so here it is, totally official! A second edition updated to cover Tcl 8.5 and indeed co-written by the creator of Tcl! [http://www.pearsonhighered.com/educator/academic/product/0,3110,032133633X,00.html] <
>[RLH]: I would think him too far out of the Tcl realm (time wise) to be the actual co-author. <
>[DKF]: The primary author/technical editor of the second edition is [Ken Jones]. <
>[LV]: Unless Mr. Jones has started from scratch, the fact that Dr. O wrote the original material upon which Mr. Jones has built certainly qualifies Dr. O to be listed as a co-author. <
>[RLH]: Yes maybe I phrased that wrong. I took the original with the intent that JO actively contributed to this version and that it wasn't just his original material. But yes, he would be co-author. <
>[DKF]: The base material is JO's, but a ''lot'' has been added. <
>[SYStems]: The link is dead now! Is the book being cancelled, anyway, a new book should wait for version 8.6 to include the OO stuff <
>[DKF]: I've got no control at all over the links... but when it comes to the book, it should be remembered that the time to produce the book is rather longer than the time to produce 8.6, as work started on it while 8.6 was still firmly in alpha. Please cut the authors at least ''some'' slack! <
>[RLH]: pffft, are you kidding me?! I will be buying this book. <
>[RLH]: O'Reilly just updated my safari subscription with the released version. w00t! ---- Will there be signings at the Portland Tcl/Tk conference in the fall? ---- !!!!!! %| [Category Book] |% !!!!!!