What: Coccinella Where: http://hem.fyristorg.com/matben/ Description: Tcl/Tk whiteboard, shared desktop, text chat with images, MP3, etc. supporting plugins and compatible with Jabber. Uses GPL licensing. Should run on most Linux, MacOS, Windows, and other platforms with appropriate Tcl/Tk extensions ported. Currently at version 0.95.0 Updated: 09/2004 Contact: http://hem.fyristorg.com/matben/contact/contact.html A [Starkit] of version 0.94.4 is available from [http://mini.net/sdarchive/coccinella.kit] (way cool!). Coccinella is a winner of [ActiveState]'s 2004 Tk Screenshot Contest. ---- See also [Tkabber] and [Jabber] ---- [LV] Can Coccinella and other jabber clients talk to users of AOL Instant Message? [PT] - Yes. A number of jabber servers provide gateways to AIM, Yahoo, MSN and ICQ. These can be found using the discovery protocol or by checking http://www.jabber.org/user/publicservers.php. For instance, the jabber.org.uk server provides IRC, MSN, AIM, ICQ and Yahoo. amessage.info has a similar set and includes a e-mail gateway. To use a foreign messaging system you normally need an account in that system. So you need to create a Yahoo account and then provide the account details to the jabber gateway when registering. After that users on the foreign system can be seen as if they were jabber users. ---- [LES]: Just for the sake of letting off some frustration, I'd like to point out that Coccinella or even Jabber in general are not the best thing for everyone. I've been testing Coccinella every few months for quite some time and, based solely on my own experience, I would have to say it just sucks like a tornado. The connection has always been very slow and unstable, the bridge to other protocols is very confusing and I miss tons of GUI customisation features that are so common in most popular IM clients. Actually, I really dislike Coccinella's GUI. I can't believe it took ActiveState's prize. Several other Tcl-based apps look better than this. Maybe their authors just were not interested or informed of the contest... Coccinella is not alone in my complaint. I've tested several other Jabber clients and they all look and feel like second or third-league to me. Worst of all, the '''connection''' has always been quirky. I have tried, I really have tried, but can't find a single way to acquire any faith in this Jabber thing. If anybody cares, I use Miranda on Windows 98. I don't think it's relevant, but someone might be wondering. I know this is a rude post, but it is very honest. I just wanted to jump on the bandwagon, but find it too inadequate to use it and actually enjoy it. ---- [Category Internet] | [Category Application]