[TR] -- Darwin [http://developer.apple.com/darwin] is the core of Apple's [MacOS X] operating system. It stands on the shoulders of a BSD unix and a mach kernel (from Next). Having installed PearPC [http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/about.html] on my x86 linux machine, I was able to install Darwin with the binaries from Apple [http://www.opensource.apple.com/darwinsource/]. And guess what: localhost:~ root# uname -a Darwin localhost 7.0.0 Darwin Kernel Version 7.0.0: Thu Nov 13 19:16:18 PST 2003; root:work/xnu-517. obj/RELEASE_PPC Power Macintosh powerpc localhost:~ root# tclsh % info patchlevel 8.4.4 % parray tcl_platform tcl_platform(byteOrder) = bigEndian tcl_platform(machine) = Power Macintosh tcl_platform(os) = Darwin tcl_platform(osVersion) = 7.0.0 tcl_platform(platform) = unix tcl_platform(threaded) = 1 tcl_platform(user) = root tcl_platform(wordSize) = 4 % It comes with Tcl included! There is, however, no Tk, perhaps because Darwin has no windowing system by itself. Compare the output above with the other Mac OS entries in [tcl_platform]. The newest Darwin is version 7.7 as of Feb 2004. It still has Tcl 8.4.4 in there.