In the chat, [Arjen Markus] and [Pascal Scheffers] have decided to see who wants to attend a Dutch Tcl Users Group.

A tentative date for a first meeting is is 10 / 11 Februari 2003 (monday/tuesday)

The most likely location will be the Erasmus MC in Rotterdam.

So, who will join us?
''Please add your email address, or send it to Pascal or Arjen, so we can keep you updated!''

   * [Arjen Markus]
   * [Pascal Scheffers] - Pascal-at-scheffers-dot-net
   * Clif Flynt???
   * [Jean-Claude Wippler]
   * John Remijn
   * Jos Jaspers
   * Aldert Nooitgedagt
   * Hilmar Nooitgedagt


''[Pascal Scheffers] is curious about who John Remijn is, what he does, etc. [AM] we are just curious about you as a "new kid on the block" :)'' 

(JR) A typical TCL user, for quite some time now. Currently using TCL for test automation. Or more exactly, i am encouraging others to use it. And being quite succesful at that :-)

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'''Topics, Talks and Catering'''

[PS] I am rather new at this (TUGing), so what does every one want? If enough people show up, a couple of full blown presentations would be nice. Or we could keep it simple and just chat about what we do.   I'll start of a list of things I've recently Tcl-i-fied, but please add things you have done or would like to discuss.

   * Linking database applications together (Postgresql, Sybase, MS Access)
   * Fully automated, encrypted email messaging
   * Web based database applications (AOLserver)
   * Using Tcl to create network tunnels
   * Mail transformation with Tcl and qmail.
   * ...

[AM] Let me add the things that I use Tcl for:

   * Mathematical tools - just hobbyism I suppose, but I find Tcl to be particularly easy for that
   * Test automation - especially for the numerical models and auxiliary programs I maintain and develop professionally
   * Graphical user-interfaces - a few commercial applications where light-weight GUIs are required
   * Controlling external programs - both as part of test automation and for its own sake (catching the results, making sure all the input is there etc.)


'''AN'''   An OpenACS user. As a physician, I TCL at application-level. I'll ask my brother to join, Pascal.
  
   * Personal homepage package OpenACS/dotLRN. 

[mailto:hilmar@nooitgedagt.net] I'm the Portal Developer for Tiscali Plaza (used to be Sonera Plaza)

   * Mainly using TCL for web-development on Vignette StoryServer V5...
   * ...but I also use it for some shell-scripts (where I don't know enough about, or can't be done by sh or bash)
   * Got interested in AOLserver because it's a more flexible and ofcourse free alternative to SS
   * Would like to discuss PowerDNS and PowerMail (http://www.powerdns.com) which have become open-source on November 25 2002. 
     - PowerDNS and -Mail lets you keep your zone files (DNS) and users (mail) in a RDBMS 
       ("MySQL", Postgres, Oracle or most other) and info can be updated by a sql statement
     - There is an interface (PowerAdmin) but it is in PHP. 
       Would like to see some peoples ideas on 'porting' to TCL
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'''Cross postings'''

The TUG meeting was also announced on:

    * comp.lang.tcl [http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3E1D6F9E.FE0750F5%40wldelft.nl&rnum=1]
    * The OpenACS bboard [http://openacs.org/forums/message-view?message_id=72098]