In the chat, [Arjen Markus] and [Pascal Scheffers] have decided to see who wants to attend a Dutch Tcl Users Group. ---- '''Update:''' ''New meeting has been planned!'' (finally) Date: wednesday, 15 december 2004, time: 19:30 Location: In Rotterdam, near Station Alexander Unitas Software Schinkelsebaan 15a 2908 LE Capelle a/d IJssel tel. (pascal) 06-28 66 1068 ---- ''First meeting:'' The date has been set to monday evening 10 Februari 2003 The location will be the Erasmus MC in Rotterdam, ''Faculty Building'' (entrance on the third floor - Dutch counting, go up to the 19th). Time: 19.30, Direct PascalHotLine: 010-40 87 413 ---- So, who will join us? ''Please add your email address, or send it to Pascal or Arjen, so we can keep you updated!'' * [Arjen Markus] * [Pascal Scheffers] - Pascal-at-scheffers-dot-net * Clif Flynt??? * [Jean-Claude Wippler] * John Remijn * Jos Jaspers - J.Jaspers at fss.uu.nl (sorry, allready have plans for that evening) * Aldert Nooitgedagt - aldert-at-nooitgedagt-dot-net * Hilmar Nooitgedagt - hilmar-at-nooitgedagt-dot-net * Martin Weterings - martinweterings-at-wanadoo-dot-nl * Peter Welten - pwelten-at-zonnet-dot-nl * Marcel Broeken - m-dot-h-dot-broeken-at-fss-dot-uu-dot-nl ---- '''Topics, Talks and Catering''' [PS] I am rather new at this (TUGing), so what does every one want? If enough people show up, a couple of full blown presentations would be nice. Or we could keep it simple and just chat about what we do. I'll start of a list of things I've recently Tcl-i-fied, but please add things you have done or would like to discuss. * Linking database applications together (Postgresql, Sybase, MS Access) * Fully automated, encrypted email messaging * Web based database applications (AOLserver) * Using Tcl to create network tunnels * Mail transformation with Tcl and qmail. * ... [AM] Let me add the things that I use Tcl for: * Mathematical tools - just hobbyism I suppose, but I find Tcl to be particularly easy for that * Test automation - especially for the numerical models and auxiliary programs I maintain and develop professionally * Graphical user-interfaces - a few commercial applications where light-weight GUIs are required * Controlling external programs - both as part of test automation and for its own sake (catching the results, making sure all the input is there etc.) '''AN''' An OpenACS user. As a physician, I TCL at application-level. I'll ask my brother to join, Pascal. * Personal homepage package OpenACS/dotLRN. '''HN''' [mailto:hilmar@nooitgedagt.net] I'm the Portal Developer for Tiscali Plaza (used to be Sonera Plaza) * Mainly using TCL for web-development on Vignette StoryServer V5... * ...but I also use it for some shell-scripts (where I don't know enough about, or can't be done by sh or bash) * Got interested in AOLserver because it's a more flexible and ofcourse free alternative to SS * Would like to discuss PowerDNS and PowerMail (http://www.powerdns.com) which have become open-source on November 25 2002. - PowerDNS and -Mail lets you keep your zone files (DNS) and users (mail) in a RDBMS ("MySQL", Postgres, Oracle or most other) and info can be updated by a sql statement - There is an interface (PowerAdmin) but it is in PHP. Would like to see some peoples ideas on 'porting' to TCL '''JR''' A typical TCL user, for quite some time now. Currently using TCL for test automation. Or more exactly, i am encouraging others to use it. And being quite succesful at that :-) Related to this i am interested in the following topics: * Database access from Tcl (various relational databases) * XML, DOM * Coupling TCL with some of the Rational tools. [JCW] - Been doodling with scripting for some 4 years, mostly Tcl. Decade of C++ before that, decade of C before that. I make my living doing consulting & development, working from home. Interests: * scripting and persistence: moving database technology beneath the surface - in particular Metakit/Mk4tcl * installation-free deployment: Tclkit, Starkits, etc - latest development is Starchive [http://www.equi4.com/starchive] * figuring out how to make on-line/remote communities of IT professionals and novices work - wiki's etc * getting IT back to meaningful proportions - million-LOC apps should be given a place next to the dinosaurs * finding more ways to "think outside the box", member of Mission Impossible 5oftware Team, yada, yada, yada ---- '''Cross postings''' The TUG meeting was also announced on: * comp.lang.tcl [http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=3E1D6F9E.FE0750F5%40wldelft.nl&rnum=1] * The OpenACS bboard [http://openacs.org/forums/message-view?message_id=72098]