Post your Tcl-related job offers here. Place new offers '''above the others''' and '''below this notice'''. ---- Date: '''May/June 2004''' Status: '''OPEN''' Posted by: [Robert Abitbol] deleted personal information; see: http://mini.net/tclrevs/11528.17 I am looking for a TCL/TK programmer to either complete a TCL program or to start it from scratch depending if the first programmer agrees to sell me the code or not. The program is a Personal Information Manager Editor. I can pay an hourly salary (deferred payment until September or November 2004) plus another part when I'll sell the program. I need an '''open-minded, mature, reliable and responsible programmer with some experience in the programming of a commercial software or with experience in developing a complete application from scratch. Contact me at: - pnb12@aol.com - Better still, AIM me at Pnb120. If you don't have AIM, please install it. It's only 1.5 megs and it works very well. Thanks for your attention. [Harry Robinson] Mister Abitbol, I spoke to Mister Staplin earlier on this wiki. He told me you were looking for a programmer to finish a project. I'll have my nephew Jonathan Forsythe aim you tomorrow and I'll have him send you his resume. He has a solid programming experience in C and C++ and he is currently learning TCl and Java. You might be interested in getting his services. Best wishes. (Harry Robinson May 26). ----- Is looking for someone over 30 grounds for discrimination? I’m sure this is more common than we think, but it's worded differently, like position requires 10 years of experience. ''Perhaps so. I'll change the phrasing, you are right. This could be discriminatory indeed. My point is I am trying to find someone with a certain maturity and who would act in a professional manner. I had a few problems lately in this regard and I am not ready to repeat this bad experience.'' [Robert Abitbol] Yes, make sure you find someone professional, and *get a contract*. I ran into a situation where we agreed to $n an hour, and the employer changed his mind (lowering it by a large amount). A contract is vital, because people often aren't as honest as they may claim. [Robert Abitbol] ''I did make the mistake of offering a ridiculously high hourly rate recently to a programmer. I offered him more close to 6 times than what he was asking. I made sure to mention I would revise the amount. In my mind, the project could have been done in 10-12 hours therefore the high rate was justified.'' ''80 hours later I realized that this amount was totally silly. The programmer's mother thought it was silly also, the programmer himself thought it was silly also and I thought it was silly also so we all agreed. Unfortunately the programmer forgot that he himself considered it silly and he jumped in the air when I told him I could hot honour such silliness and I brought him back to a more realistic hourly rate. He said I was dishonest. I would have never signed this high hourly rate since it was '''tentative''' '''as I made it clear from the start.''' '' ''Besides, I put a top, a maximum to this project: he had already reached his top so eventually he would have made less an hour than the ridiculously high rate I proposed'' ''In any case in retrospect I do believe that I acted with my TCL programmer in all and complete honesty on top of giving him kindness and understanding like a real friend would.'' ''I believe he the programmer wanted out of this project for he was not interested in a 3 hour programming cycle everyday. He used the same trick Rohan Pall used on me (no wonder, Rohan Pall was pulling his strings): he got out of the project blaming '''me''' for his going out so that he'll have a good conscience. I know this blaming trick (although I have never used it) and I believe it was not appropriate. A professional and responsible programmer just doesn't cut off all links with a project leader and a project and does not play the hurt baby who cries because he didn't have his case of lolipops and he had less than expected or for other reasons.'' ''I learned my lesson and from now on I'll settle on a more decent hourly rate. I do learn from my mistakes. '' ----- See also: [Tcl jobs] [[Category???]]