Information about the mailing list appears here [http://noucorp.com/mailman/listinfo/tk-nextgen]. "There will be some significant work on a next generation [Tk] in 2004." Jeffrey Hobbs [http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=412564A1.4010405%40removethis.activestate.com]. Is the "Tk Revitalization Home" [http://tcl.projectforum.com/tk/Home] Mark set up no longer where work is done [http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Oq6dnQYwVcWdp7XcRVn-uQ%40novus-tele.net]? How can a [Wiki] go stale? [George Peter Staplin]: The ProjectForum wiki went stale, because * "unix hackers," with good ideas, were put off by some comments, by the creator of it * [Windows] HCI standards are viewed as "good" (In reality people don't like the tiny listboxes in tiny-unresizable dialogs.) * cloning Windows is not fun -- or useful to most developers * the Tcl'ers Wiki was not used instead * work that pays has a higher priority ---- It seems like, to me, that the [projectform] wiki went stale when people quit talking about (and in general working on) the tk effort. I'm unconvinced that the community wants a new Tk badly enough to put in the effort to achieve it. And that is nothing unique to Tk - that's the problem most open source projects encounter. Why not transform any good ideas from that revitalization project -that staled- into tips, or packages. ---- I'd imagine the [Tile] [widget] [theme] implementation is the "next generation" Tk he speaks of. http://mini.net/tcl/tile