I just had to make a pointer to the oldest unmaintained Tcl page! http://web.cs.ualberta.ca/~wade/HyperTcl/ [EG] 2008.08.06 The above link doesn't work anymore. http://medg.lcs.mit.edu/ftp/mpf/GridWars/ pretty funny! But even better is the page just above that one: http://medg.lcs.mit.edu/ftp/mpf Which proudly announces that it was last updated in 1993! And poking around on that machine shows users ftp directories not touched since 1991! ---- [LV]: What does the medg web mpf web page have to do with Tcl though? PSE: it is the parent dirctory of the dead GridWars dir. That machine seems to be intent on becoming a ghost host! LV: I don't know - there are some sites which have made copies of the comp.lang.tcl FAQ and not bothered to refresh them for quite some time. Sigh. ---- !!!!!! %|[Category Humor]|% !!!!!!