Not really a Tcl programmer, just someone who posted a page at http://www.kudla.org/raindog/tcl/ a few years ago to express the one good use (self-contained, stand-alone, high-level cross-platform GUI apps) I'd found for Tcl, for which I otherwise don't care much at all. I tend to be more into Gambas [http://gambas.sf.net/] and PerlQt [http://perlqt.sf.net] as high level Linux-compatible GUI languages/toolkits go. <> Person