I've dabbled with Tcl since about 1988 starting on VMS when [John Ousterhout]'s book was current. I now do a mix of application and system programming, mostly in C (with some scripting thrown in) with a focus on delivering financial information to institutional customers. I've slowly become functional with Oracle by "on the job training" since that is what we use. My most-used Tcl extension is [Expect] by a wide margin. I can't begin to count the amount of time Expect has saved me. My main past-time is astrophotography; you can see some of my work on my website, http://www.astrofoto.org/. This picture is me setting up to photograph the 2001 Leonid meteor shower with my two boys (one 11 months, the other 3 years at the time of this photo) "helping" me. (revived link to photo) [astro photo png] <> Person