For years now, [Scotty] has rarely been maintained. However, it was so superior in, say, 2000, that it still remains popular and is widely used in even commercial, "mission-critical" applications. Perhaps its most palpable deterioration is in source and binary repositories, which seem monotonically to be falling away. [CL] no longer can easily find downloadable 3.0. I favor 3.0, even though Juergen calls it "alpha"; that simply reflects Juergen's high standards. For my part, I find it more useful and reliable than anything from the 2.x series. In any case, when I need 3.0 sources, I use anonymous [CVS], as J��¼rgen's page [http://wwwhome.cs.utwente.nl/~schoenw/scotty/] describes it (use password "anoncvs"): cvs -d ":pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de:/anoncvs" login cvs -d ":pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de:/anoncvs" checkout scotty ---- Well, in 2005 (14 Nov 2005, to be exact), those links give: # cvs -d ":pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de:/anoncvs" login Logging in to :pserver:anoncvs@anoncvs.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de:2401/anoncvs CVS password: Unknown host anoncvs.ibr.cs.tu-bs.de. I don't _think_ that's a firewall issue here but I'm looking into it. -- [CLN] ---- See also "[Scotty in 2003]"