I'm primarily a sysadmin rather than a programmer. TCL first hit my radar at the USENIX where Ousterhout introduced it, and has been on my list of Good Things ever since. Most recently I twisted [Clif Flynt]'s arm to get him to do the [Tenth Annual Tcl/Tk Conference], and pitched in a bit to get the network running in the meeting rooms. I was particularly impressed by some of the things folks have been doing with [Starkit]. It jibes very well with a lot of the issues I addressed in 1994 with the paper [http://www-personal.umich.edu/~scs/TechWriting/install.html%|%Software Design For Installability]. It's good to know that things move forward. You can find many of my writings and other things you'd rather not know at my web page, http://lokkur.dexter.mi.us. 1/4/04 Note - new email address. My web page will follow it eventually. mailto:scs@umich.edu <> Person