Tclkit Lite is a new (as of Oct 2005) variant of Tclkit which is a limited edition of Tclkit.
The limits and differences are:
LV Calling tclkit-lite a "limited edition" and talking about what it doesn't do and use makes it sound as if tclkit is taking a step backwards - yet that doesn't seem to be your intent. Can you expand on the vision?
(All in due time... tclkit is not deprecated, and "lite" refers to exe size, jcw)
The steps needed to build Tclkit Lite require "kitgen", see [L1 ]. -jcw
AMG: "Limited edition"? Hehehe. Get yours today! They're moving fast! First one hundred downloads are personally autographed by JCW!! :^)
Downloads
PT Until some more official source becomes standard:
Kroc 8.4 and 8.5 builds with kitgen:
MHo: What about a tclkitsh-lite? (without Tk) - it would be even smaller... (interesting, e.g., for CGI-Scripts).
US Yes! That's really a good idea. A Tclkit for Tcl and a Tkkit for Tcl/Tk. A pure Tclkit (without Tk), eventually including TclX and/or expect, would be very useful for daemons and background tasks.
jcw - See [L2 ] for sizes on Linux. Note that tclkitsh variants (no Tk and no Itcl) are easy to build:
(removed obsolete example, superceded by kitgen)
PT 31-Oct-2005: I've modified the msvc6 build files to include support for this. I'm uncertain that I've got it 100% correct so far as my tclkitlite is only 90K or so smaller that the normal tclkit. My tclkitlite84.exe for Windows is available from [L3 ] (gpg signature at [L4 ]) at least for a while. I'll produce some patches at some point.
These are the sizes I have for each version - not upx compressed. The link above is compressed because it is for download and my uplink speed is not that fast.
31/10/2005 16:34 2,001,305 tclkit84.exe 31/10/2005 16:28 1,908,269 tclkitlite84.exe 31/10/2005 16:41 902,749 tclkitsh84.exe
Just to point out that this lite tclkit still contains the same vfs code that a normal tclkit does. It is only lacking the metakit library. This means that, for instance, you can still load zip-based starkits (there is an example of one for tkchat at [L5 ]).
(and you can still load a copy of the Mk4tcl extension dynamically, at which point Tclkit Lite should revert to doing the same as Tclkit -jcw)
LV Hey Pat, the version of tclkitlite for Solaris SPARC you mention still uses C++ - and thus still has the nasty problem of dynamic libraries not being found. On my SPARC Solaris 9 system, those libraries are libstdc++.so.6 and libm.so.2 . See also Using a zip file as a Tcl Module, tarpack
2007-01-12: The build system for Tclkit Lite is called "kitgen". It can be used to build a range of variants for 8.4/8.5, threaded/non-threaded, for Windows / Mac OS X / Linux (and probably several others), see http://www.equi4.com/kitgen.html
LV So what is the intent for tclkit-lite? Is it to become the successor to tclkit? Of course, one can't if the starkit being run makes use of metakit, but other than that, could one use the lite version for any other starkit?
jcw - Yes, Tclkit Lite (TKL) will succeed Tclkit, one day. Metakit could be added as dynamic extension, but again TKL will one day be able to do the same without. There is a "mklite" package inside TKL which emulates most of Mk4tcl (r/o for now). It is still evolving, but it can already run wikit, for example.