Tclkit Lite [http://www.equi4.com/tclkit/tclkitlite.html] is a new (as of Oct 2005) variant of [Tclkit] which is a limited edition of Tclkit. The limits and differences are: * it only reads/runs/mounts [Metakit]-based [starkit]s & [starpack]s, not create or modify them * it does not include [Mk4tcl], so all dependencies on [C++] are gone * it adds a small [TEA]3-based new C-only extension (called "Thrive") * performance is "sort of" like Tclkit, but varies because it's a different code base * it does not use the "mk4vfs" [VFS] driver, but a simpler one called "mkclvfs" (MK Compat Lite) * Tclkit Lite is smaller than Tclkit (some 250 Kb less on Linux, no more Mk4tcl nor C++ runtime) * [SDX] has been extended to support creating starkits when used with Tclkit Lite [LV] Calling tclkit-lite a "limited edition" and talking about what it doesn't do and use makes it sound as if tclkit is taking a step backwards - yet that doesn't seem to be your intent. Can you expand on the vision? ''(All in due time... tclkit is not deprecated, and "lite" refers to exe size, [jcw])'' The steps needed to build Tclkit Lite require "kitgen", see [http://www.equi4.com/tclkit/kitgen.html]. -[jcw] [AMG]: "Limited edition"? Hehehe. Get yours today! They're moving fast! First one hundred downloads are personally autographed by [JCW]!! :^) ---- '''Downloads''' [PT] Until some more official source becomes standard: * Windows-x86 http://www.patthoyts.tk/programming/tclkitlite84.upx.exe * Solaris-sparc http://www.patthoyts.tk/programming/tclkitlite84-SunOS-sparc.gz [MHo]: What about a tclkit'''sh'''-lite? (without Tk) - it would be even smaller... (interesting, e.g., for CGI-Scripts). [US] Yes! That's really a good idea. A Tclkit for Tcl and a Tkkit for Tcl/Tk. A pure Tclkit (without Tk), eventually including TclX and/or expect, would be very useful for daemons and background tasks. [jcw] - See [http://www.equi4.com/tclkitlite.html] for sizes on Linux. Note that tclkitsh variants (no Tk and no Itcl) are easy to build: (removed obsolete example, superceded by kitgen) ---- [PT] 31-Oct-2005: I've modified the msvc6 build files to include support for this. I'm uncertain that I've got it 100% correct so far as my tclkitlite is only 90K or so smaller that the normal tclkit. My tclkitlite84.exe for Windows is available from [http://www.patthoyts.tk/programming/tclkitlite84.upx.exe] (gpg signature at [http://www.patthoyts.tk/programming/tclkitlite84.upx.exe.asc]) at least for a while. I'll produce some patches at some point. These are the sizes I have for each version - ''not'' upx compressed. The link above is compressed because it is for download and my uplink speed is not that fast. 31/10/2005 16:34 2,001,305 tclkit84.exe 31/10/2005 16:28 1,908,269 tclkitlite84.exe 31/10/2005 16:41 902,749 tclkitsh84.exe Just to point out that this lite tclkit still contains the same vfs code that a normal tclkit does. It is ''only'' lacking the metakit library. This means that, for instance, you can still load zip-based starkits (there is an example of one for tkchat at [http://tclers.tk/~jabber/tkchat.zkit]). (and you can still load a copy of the Mk4tcl extension dynamically, at which point Tclkit Lite should revert to doing the same as Tclkit -[jcw]) ---- [LV] Hey Pat, the version of tclkitlite for Solaris SPARC you mention still uses C++ - and thus still has the nasty problem of dynamic libraries not being found. On my SPARC Solaris 9 system, those libraries are libstdc++.so.6 and libm.so.2 . See also [Using a zip file as a Tcl Module], [tarpack] ---- 2007-01-12: The build system for Tclkit Lite is called "kitgen". It can be used to build a range of variants for 8.4/8.5, threaded/non-threaded, for Windows / Mac OS X / Linux (and probably several others), see http://www.equi4.com/tclkit/kitgen.html [LV] So what is the intent for tclkit-lite? Is it to become the successor to [tclkit]? Of course, one can't if the starkit being run makes use of [metakit], but other than that, could one use the lite version for any other starkit? ''[jcw] - Yes, Tclkit Lite (TKL) will succeed Tclkit, one day. Metakit could be added as dynamic extension, but again TKL will one day be able to do the same without. There is a "mklite" package inside TKL which emulates most of Mk4tcl (r/o for now). It is still evolving, but it can already run wikit, for example.'' ---- [RZ] To build Tclkit Lite (TKL) and binary extension see also [Tclkit Kitgen Build System] [APN] For explicit instructions to build on Windows using Visual Studio, see [Building Tclkit with kitgen on Windows]. ---- [[ [Category Tclkit] | [Category Deployment] ]]