Tcl ''is'' a "toy language" in that it's simple, children learn it, it's handy for very small programming, ... Tcl is far more than a toy language, though, for the people who ... [applications in Tcl and Tcl/Tk] [Companies that use Tcl] ... Anyone else think that Tcl might be taken more seriously were it not for the slightly childish "tickle" name? --[Andrew Cates] [MSW] I don't think the name is a problem at all: Consider JAVA, RUBY, PERL, PYTHON ... ([TV] "Tool Command Language" strikes me as one of the more sensible names in computerworld as know, I don't see the problem. Tickle is maybe childish, maybe apt, but I've always seen TCL as simply an acronym. ) ... The problem is lack of a hero, and marketing. Also, perhaps worth noting are the eternal in-community battles over lack of complex, 2-dimensional arrays, speed issues (is this still true?), and OO (lets not get into it here). How can TCL get a public face-lift? ... ---- Actually, I think the opposite may in fact be true. Tickle would be a cuter, warmer name (like Java, Python etc.), whereas Tcl looks like something IBM would invent. --[Setok] ---- [Category Advocacy]