[wolfw] -- wolf holonforth com -- An old Forth hand drifting to Tcl. I am a physicist who became sidetracked by a PDP8e, once upon a time. This beautiful machine worked wonders in 20 kB with a real OS on elegant DECtapes, where you could watch the bytes flowing. I still like simple solutions. Since that time I ponder the best ways to build machines in software without suffering the complexity of the orthodox ways of programming. Forth is part of my answer, particularly for programming to the bare metal. For workstation programming I start to like Tcl, particularly TclKit. Since 1989 I use my own development systems (http://holonforth.com). In my experience you can simplify your programming life if you: 1. Handle source text in a database. 2. Present the program in a book-like hierarchical structure. As a first exercise in Tcl I added a book structure to Wikit, which lets you order the pages in chapters and sections. See [HolonWikit].