'''clock clicks''' ''?-option?'' [clock clicks] returns a high-resolution time value as a system-dependent integer value. See the [clock] reference page for more detail. If -milliseconds is provided as an option, then the command is synonomous with [clock milliseconds]. This usage is '''OBSOLETE'''. If -microseconds is provided as an option, then the command is synonomous with [clock microseconds]. This usage is '''OBSOLETE'''. ---- In Classic [MacOS], the clicks were typically as long as 1/60 second, but in recent [MacOS X], they are instead so fast that expr {[clock clicks] == [clock clicks]} never seems to return true (more than µs resolution). Other platforms still have had clicks = milliseconds, and this assumption is sometimes made in Tcl code, which can lead to bugs that don't show up on all platforms. In other words, the uniqueness of this value is often high but notoriously unreliable, especially for cross-platform comparisons. An alternative source when generating unique IDs (cf. [GUID and UUID]) is [info cmdcount]. [Scott Beasley]: I feel that [info cmdcount] is totally useless for Unique key generation. It stays very small in size for too long and changes at a MUCH lower rate then does [clock clicks] in a modern tcl (8.4-8.5) system. Not saying it couldn't be used as an "enhancement" number though in the generation process. [Lars H]: Why is it a problem to be small? The need (as I understand it) is for uniqueness of values, not for having them look random. [Scott Beasley]: A uuid is 128 bits. You need enough in terms of size and variation to generate one. I do see the value of [info cmdcount] in combination with [clock clicks] on older systems. I may look into that for my needs as well and publish my results. [Lars H]: OK, so essentially a randomness argument — I'm generating these things, others are too, and we want to be reasonably sure there won't be a collision. Not all unique-IDs are supposed to be "universally" unique however, many just need to be locally unique. ---- !!!!!! %| [Category Command] | [Category Platform Issues] |% !!!!!!