comp.lang.tcl, also known as clt or c.l.t, is a Usenet group whose topic is Tcl
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Bryan Oakley 2001-11-23, wrote on c.l.t: This group is more like a school playground where the place is filled with kids who see gems when other people only see rocks, and everyone shares in the magic of a found treasure even if it's really just something a grown-up threw away. And when they find something that truly is junk it is just thrown away with a laugh, and a race to find the next cool thing :-)
Not the place for binaries.
One of the cardinal rules, though, of newsgroups is relevancy. If your posting - whatever the topic - is not relevant to Tcl and/or one of its extensions or applications, then it probably belongs elsewhere.
Keep the signal-to-noise ratio high: avoid 'lots of references/updates/etc. on a daily (or even weekly) basis.
Double, triple, quadruple-check every bit of code that will be posted. Recently, Cameron Laird wrote regarding a wish for usenet posters:
top coders know how to test and automate, and expect to do both these things at all opportunities. I'm inclined to take Donal at his word, and believe that he makes no fewer errors than others, and quite possibly more. However, he's quite good at verifying his own work.
well, the world would be a different place."
comp.lang.tcl values professionalism. Larry Virden recently wrote in a newsgroup for some other language:
According to Martien Verbruggen <[email protected]>: :On Thu, 04 Jan 2001 01:29:53 GMT, : John Hall <[email protected]> wrote: :> I see a lot of "you work stupid" and "RTFM" on this list. : :Mostly when it is deserved.
Treating someone poorly, regardless of their inappropriate behavior, seldom converts them to one's point of view. It creates barriers, and in all likelihood burns bridges which, one day, one may regret having burned (imagine if you will finding yourself across the hiring desk from someone that you might have treated that way...)
That being said, concise, accurate, and pointed responses are also valued, even when they sometimes seem a bit brusque.
Avoid mentioning the mentioning one or a few specific solutions in almost every posting, unless those are the only or uncontroverted best solutions.
Serious and well-considered employer announcements are currently considered acceptable, but that may change with the volume of postings. The should be clearly marked as such in the subject.
There is a second usenet newsgroup titled news:comp.lang.tcl.announce , which has a web forum interface at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tcl_announce . This is a moderated group specializing in new Tcl related release announcments by anyone. Announcements can concern conferences, workshops, software, books, articles, etc. However, the moderator has been unavailable for quite some time, and now yahoo has even removed the archives. So someone interested in becoming the moderator should probably contact the Usenet Cabal to determine how best to proceed.
LV 2006-02-09: I continue to be unsuccessful in a) contacting the moderator and b) getting yahoogroups to respond to my queries about opening the tcl_announce group up to a new moderator. Anyone know the steps on usenet to declare a new moderator? And anyone know someone willing to act as moderator?
Alas, the moderator of comp.lang.tcl.announce appears to have disappeared over the past few years, and attempts, to date, to get someone to take over that task have failed.
Descriptions followed by ? have to be checked
LV: I'm relatively certain that the Macintosh tcl newsgroup references are not to our own Tcl Command Language Tcl, but instead to a C/C++ product that was (is?) available on the Mac platform.
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