Version 14 of Tcl and octal numbers

Updated 2002-12-02 14:10:40

Purpose: discuss the common pitfall of Tcl and octal numbers


Since Tcl does many things in an obvious manner, non-unix/c people are frequently surprised when they try this kind of code:

 # somehow get today's date and time into MMM DDD YYY HH MM SS variables

 set newtime [expr $HH + 1]

and get an error at 8am. The problem - Tcl tries to do

  expr 08 + 1

and complains. 08, you see, isn't really the string of the decimal number that comes after 7. Instead, it is an error. Tcl sees the leading 0 and treats the digits after it as representing a base 8 number. But there are no 8s (or 9s) in a base 8 number. So it generates an error.


The fix is to use:

    scan $HH %d HH

which strips hazardous leading zeros. This is also safer than [string trimleft $HH 0] which can fail if $HH ever ends up containing "00" for example.

DKF


glennj: one potential pitfall of [scan] is that it might mask potential errors:

        set n 09blah42
        incr n

fails as expected with the error message:

        expected integer but got "09blah42"
        while evaluating {incr n}

However:

        set n 09blah42
        scan $n %d n
        incr n ;# ==> n is now 10

Application writers might actually want to trap an invalid entry like that.


[Refer to http://phaseit.net/claird/comp.lang.tcl/fmm.html#zero ]

[Explain improved diagnostic in 8.3.]


The question recently came up how do I display the octal value of a character in Tcl? and RS replied:

 'the complete sequence is "format 0%o [scan a %c]"'

(but only with Tcl more recent than 8.2 or so; older scan works slightly differently).


http://www.tcl.tk/cgi-bin/tct/tip/114.html proposes modifying Tcl in a future release so that numbers beginning with 0 will not be interpreted by default as being expressed in octal. The proposer believes that far more users stumble upon this feature by accident than use it intentionally.