Version 7 of Vote: Should Pooryorick leave the Tcler's wiki?

Updated 2015-12-31 16:05:57 by octavsly

On his namesake page PYK made the following offer to the community in response to a comment by APN:

"As I've said before, I'm willing to take my efforts to my own website, if people really would rather I do that."

So, lets take a polling of the community consensus of the community's desire to take PYK up on his offer.

Therefore, the question of this vote:

Should PYK "take [his] efforts to [his] own website" and leave the Tcler's wiki alone?"

Note: At this point, everyone in the community has already formed an opinion of PYK and his editing of the wiki. This page is not meant to be a place for debate nor a place for pleas attempting to sway opinions in one direction or another. It is merely meant to collect the votes of the community members to the question above.

Please edit the page and place your vote below the appropriate section heading below:


Vote YES: I would like PYK to "take [his] efforts to [his] own website" and leave the Tcl'ers wiki alone:

RLE: I vote YES.

PL: I vote YES.


Vote NO: I would like PYK to continue to edit the Tcl'ers wiki:

aprendiz: I vote NO.

MS: I vote NO

Kroc: I vote NO


Discussion

dbohdan 2015-12-31: The implicit assumption made above is that such matters can and should be decided by popular vote. Personally, I find it far from obvious why this is the case. It is especially questionable to call for a vote right after an attempt to resolve the conflict through violence (use of bots to coerce the other party to give up).

I think what the wiki needs is, ultimately, a bit more of hands-on governance. That would first and foremost include rules for conflict resolution and someone to act as an arbiter who has the final word. (1) Then everyone who agrees to abide by the rules can stay and everyone who disagrees can fork the wiki or otherwise go and post elsewhere.

(1) Now, that I would vote on (even though I'd rather see that person chosen by consensus).

MS 2015-12-31: I like to believe that I am part of this community, have not formed an opinion, and would like to understand RLE's real beef with PYK - in this page, or in another one linked from here. From the description at PYK's page, I tend to believe that RLE is the one who has broken the house rules by removing pages wholesale ... with a robot??? Phrases like "do ... and it [your page] can stay" also show that RLE has a sense of ownership that is completely misplaced. Maybe it is RLE who should open "Curated Tcler's Wiki, by RLE", where he can insure his conditions are always met.

That being said:

  • I do not think we should EVER ask ANYBODY to leave this wiki.
  • I strongly dislike PYK's 'space before a comma' style

Kroc 2015-12-31: I completely agree with MS.

octavsly 2015-12-31: @PYK @RLE: grow up and learn to listen. both of you.