vwait , a built-in Tcl command, enters the event loop and only returns once the indicated variable is modified.
vwait enters the Tcl event loop, and as events are processed, monitors the variable named by varName for changes, returning only once some event handler modifies varName. Thus, vwait effectively blocks execution of the foreground script until a modification of varName occurs. As soon as the event handler that modifies varName returns, vwait returns. VarName is resolved relative to the global scope, so the following pattern is often useful:
vwait [namespace which -variable foo]
Since the event handler that stores a value to varName continues to completion before vwait can return, some time can pass betweeen when a value is stored to varName and when vwait returns. For example, if an event handler sets varName and then itself calls vwait to wait for a different variable, then the outer vwait depends on the inner vwait, and may not return for a long time. In general, nested calls to vwait should be avoided.
Wish has a built-in event loop. Tclsh has one too but enters that only on demand, for which the idiom is to write at the end of code
vwait forever
RS: forever being the name of a variable that is presumably never used, but you can set forever to any value to terminate such a Tcl script).
See the note below about namespaces - missing this note results in problems that occur quite commonly!
Wai Shun Au wrote in comp.lang.tcl:
after 30000 {set a $a}
vwait aThis way it would wait for a to be changed or until 30 seconds is up.
Jeffrey Hobbs commented: You found the standard way, but you have to go a bit further to avoid weird bugs. Cache the after id and make sure to cancel it following the vwait (no catch needed - if the after id no longer exists, because it was triggered, after cancel doesn't care). That way you won't get a being reset no matter what in 30 secs.
DKF: You can vwait on several variables simultaneously as long as all those variables are in the same array, and you are happy for any set of the array to cause the vwait to terminate. Do this by making the vwait be on the overall array, and not any element of it.
BBH: Actually, you can combine the multiple variable & timeout nicely without the variables having to be related, and the timer won't affect the actual variables, Demonstrated by this code taken from dissussion on comp.lang.tcl (most of the original work by Donald Porter, that I tweaked a little to add timeout option).
kenstir: I have further tweaked this version of waitForAny that returns the var (or vars) that got set during the vwait. This allows you to build a robust asynchronous queue. I'm submitting it as a patch to tcllib.sourceforge.net along with tests.
namespace eval control {
namespace export waitForAny
variable waitForAnyKey 0
# new "vwait" that takes multiple variables and/or optional timeout
# usage: waitForAny ?timeout? variable ?variable ...?
proc waitForAny {args} {
variable waitForAnyArray
variable waitForAnyKey
# if first arg is a number, then that is max wait time
if {[string is int [lindex $args 0]]} {
set timeout [lindex $args 0]
set args [lrange $args 1 end]
}
# create trigger script that will cause vwait to fall thru
# (trailing comment is to eat appended args in trace command)
set index "Key[incr waitForAnyKey]"
set trigger "[namespace code [list set waitForAnyArray($index) 1]] ;#"
# create trace to trip trigger
foreach var $args {
uplevel \#0 [list trace variable $var w $trigger]
}
# set timer is user requested one
if {[info exists timeout]} {
set timerId [after $timeout $trigger]
}
vwait [namespace which -variable waitForAnyArray]($index)
# remove all traces
foreach var $args {
uplevel \#0 [list trace vdelete $var w $trigger]
}
# cancel timer
if [info exists timerId] {
after cancel $timerId
}
# cleanup
unset waitForAnyArray($index)
}
}The varName must be globally qualified as if in a binding, even if the vwait is inside a namespace eval':
namespace eval foo {
vwait bar ;# will never fire
vwait ::foo::bar ;# does the job
variable bar ;# These two lines also do the job
vwait [namespace which -variable bar] ;# DGP
} ;# RSA majority of the coding questions received in comp.lang.tcl about vwait appear to result from deep misunderstandings of the command (as opposed to mere syntactic confusion, for example). Bruce Hartweg has rightly advised that its proper use is restricted: "IMHO vwaits shouldn't be used too much (the nesting issue creates unexpected results) because you are trying to force a synchronous approach.
Here a simple example of nested vwait (this code never reach puts) :
set foo {}
set forever 1
after 100 {
set ::foo bar
vwait ::forever
}
vwait ::foo
puts "foo is $foo"In an event world, it is much better to keep everything event driven. Occasionally for simple things (like dialogs) to use a vwait to avoid having to break something the has a couple of file picks and/or confirmations into umpteen parts has its place." KBK agrees that the Tcl event loop is widely misunderstood and discusses related issues in Update considered harmful and the pages to which it links.
Packages such as Tk and tclsvc themselves call vwait. To avoid nested vwait calls:
if {![info exists tk_version] && ![info exists tcl_service]} { ...PS 2004-03-09: For example, this script, which implements a TCP server in tclsh and wish, will not exit properly when you close its main window:
proc accept { channel peer port } {
close $channel
}
socket -server accept 5000
vwait foreverAfter you close the window, the wish app does not exit, but remains fully active in memory.
DGP: This discussion is essentially another vote in favor of Tk Feature Request 456548 .
The flaw here is in Tk's continued assumptions about being in wish, rather than being an independent package that might be loaded into any Tcl interp. There's nothing wrong with vwait (at least nothing revealed in this discussion. :) ).
Chris Nelson said these golden words on comp.lang.tcl:
Multiple vwaits nest, they do not happen in parallel. The outermost vwait cannot complete until all others return.
Marty Backe 2002-08-15:
This little program demonstrates what Chris Nelson stated above (calls to vwait can nest):
set ::time 0
set ::a 0
set ::b 0
proc a_vwait {} {
puts "Waiting 15 sec for ::a"
vwait ::a
puts "::a set"
}
proc b_vwait {} {
puts "Waiting 30 sec for ::b"
vwait ::b
puts "::b set"
}
proc timer {} {
incr ::time 1
puts "$::time sec"
if {$::time == 35} {
exit
} else {
after 1000 timer
}
}
after 1 a_vwait
after 5 b_vwait
after 10 timer
after 15000 {set ::a 0}
after 30000 {set ::b 0}
vwait foreverAlthough there are two events set to trigger in 15 sec and 30 sec respectively, the 30 sec vwait blocks the 15 sec vwait, opposite of the intuitive reaction to this program.
When you understand this code snippit, you'll be free from the dangers of haphazardly using vwait.
Christian Klugesherz 2009-12-04: To understand what really happens, just replace the above timer procedure, by adding after info which shows the existing event handler queue
proc timer {} {
incr ::time 1
puts "$::time sec"
puts [after info]
if {$::time == 35} {
exit
} else {
after 1000 timer
#puts [after info]
}
}Peter Newman 2004-03-09: Wish Is Buggy! It seems to me that all these problems with vwait, tkwait, update and people not understanding the event loop, etc - are due to the inherently defective (in my opinion buggy) design of wish - in that it automatically appends the event loop onto the scripts it runs.
Take the following "Hello World" program:-
pack [button .mybutton -text {Hello World!} -command exit] ;It's buggy! I forget to call the event loop. So it does nothing. But wish will run it Ok. So wish's bug cancels out my bug - and the bug in my program gets overlooked. Almost all programs on this Wiki are like that. As written by the programmer, there's no call to the event loop.
Now with "Hello World" programs it probably doesn't matter. But with complicated real world programs the event loop matters a lot. But wish permits and encourages Tcl programmers to ignore the event loop. We only worry about it when the roof caves in! Then we find out we haven't got a clue how it works. Or how to write code that handles the event loop properly. (Then it's thank God for pages like this on the Wiki, as you try and figure it out.)
The solution is to get rid of the auto-appending the event loop from wish. And force Tcl programmers to learn and think about the event loop from the first, and with every subsequent, script they write.
schlenk: Not really, wish is ok, but there are tendencies to get rid of it in favor of tclsh and package require Tk. Tk starts the event loop by default, so there isn't any bug. If you use Tk, you have a running event loop. Why make things more complex by forcing people to require the event loop explicitly if it is clear they need it?
PS 2004-03-09: I'd have to agree with schlenk that the current wish behaviour is the right thing, but the whole reason I moved the 'check for tk' remark to the top of the page is that I was bitten by it *again*. Currently, if you want the 'default' Tcl event loop, the recommended/standard way seems to be to call vwait forever. But there are more and more script out there that run in multiple environments, with different capabilities, and more will emerge. Is checking for tk and tclsvr enough right now? Probably. Will it be in the future? Probably not. What we really need is a function that I can call to start the event loop, which -by default- will never return. Something like:
interp eventloop
# or just
eventloop
# and for the special case which needs it:
{ ... appInitCode }
eventloop -pleaseReturnIfPossible
{ ... appCleanupCode }Or bastardise vwait to do the same, when called with forever as its first argument (which would probably break things). And maybe [interp eventloop {script}] to provide the appropriate eventloop handler code.
NEM: It is worth pointing out here that tk_messageBox calls vwait internally (at least on UNIX). This has been a cause of several bugs in event driven code I have written. All the advice given on this page about not calling vwait should also apply to tk_messageBox. In particular, don't do something like the following:
fileevent $fd readable [list readdata $fd]
proc readdata fd {
global line
set line [gets $fd]
# Some other stuff...
tk_messageBox ...
# Some more stuff...
}The problem is that the nested vwait means that readdata will likely be re-entered, causing all kinds of mayhem to ensue. The way I coded around this was to implement my own dialog box code, which took a callback:
messagebox ... -command [list dosomething ...]
But then, you still have to deal with what to do with events that come in while the dialog is still raised. (Do you process them, or should you wait until the dialog box is dismissed?) I never really decided what the correct behaviour in this situation would be.
CMcC: In case it matters to you, this quickie will prevent recursive vwait while permitting iterative vwait:
rename ::vwait ::vwait_org
proc ::vwait varname {
rename ::vwait ::no_vwait
set result [uplevel 1 [list vwait_org $varname]]
rename ::no_vwait ::vwait
return $result
}Typical usage examples of vwait involve waiting until an unset variable is set or an existing variable is updated. The wording used in the vwait manual page is consistent with this pattern: it runs the event loop "until a variable is written", and also "It continues processing events until some event handler sets the value of the global variable". Apparently, however, unsetting the variable will also cause vwait to return! For example:
set ready 1
after 3000 {unset ready}
vwait ready
# Returns after 3 s.I found this a bit surprising, and counter-intuitive. If using vwait to implement blocking of a shared resource, for example, this means that you can't just vwait, you have to do something like:
while {![info exists ready]} {vwait ready}or
while {!$ready} {vwait ready}(To me, having to use a loop like this seems to go against Tcl's event-driven style.)
Intriguingly, even if the unset fails (if the variable does not exist), vwait will still return:
after 3000 {catch {unset nonexistent}}
vwait nonexistent
# Returns after 3 s!Ken: I have one a problem with the follow code. I intended to transfer control to other parts of my program so i intend embed to use this code into my program to halt the procession of one function and go to other function which would call it again? Below is the code
set Flag 0
if {$Flag} {
continue
} else {
vwait Flag
}but for this code it seems that it would prompt an error code which is "can't wait for variable Flag" if flag stays at 0. So how should i proceed so that it would not prompt this error code.
Aj 2015-02-03 00:51:35
I've read all the above and have been bitten by incorrectly assuming an "after 2000" command will wait while other events continue to be processed. My Tk app has many "wait" windows or pauses in a functions that allow time for other backgrounds commands to do their job. The problem is that using "after 5000" within a function disables all the buttons in the application.
So, I use the following simple "pause" function in place of "after":
proc pause {ms {waitvar WAITVAR}} {
global $waitvar
after $ms "set $waitvar 1"
puts "waiting $ms for $waitvar"
vwait $waitvar
puts "pause $ms returned"
}
button .b -text PressMe -command {pause 5000 but[incr i]}; # everyone waits on this
pack .b
after 0 {pause 1000 var1}; pause 3000 var2; # works as expected
after 0 {pause 3000 var3}; pause 1000 var4; # both return after 3 secsNow that I understand that calls to vwait might be nested (thanks to this wiki!), the behavior is expected. My button is always responsive, but if pressed, all other vwaits are held up for at least another 5 seconds. And a second press within 5 seconds also delays the first one.
I don't hate this. It does seem almost too simple a solution, so I'd like to get comments as to what problems I might not have though of.
aspect: If you want after-like behaviour in a procedure without blocking or vwait, one nice way to do it is with coroutines. tcllib's coroutine and coroutine::auto packages make it all very convenient. A simple example (without using those convenience modules) might look like this:
proc do_stuff {w} {
set orig [$w cget -text]
$w configure -state disabled
for {set i 0} {$i < 5} {incr i} {
$w configure -text "Thinking ($i)"
after 1000 [info coroutine]
yield
}
$w configure -text $orig
$w configure -state normal
}
pack [button .b -text "Press Me" -command {coroutine do_stuff_coroutine do_stuff .b}]nektomk - 2023-07-19 11:28:05
There is a problem when using vwait, tls sockets and/or websocket together. apparently vwait does not execute idle functions while waiting. As a result, the program may "hang" at the connection stage and messages from websocket will be received with long pauses. For the fix, I use vwait replacements:
package require uuid
namespace eval wait {}
rename vwait ::wait::vwait
proc ::wait::onvar { varname id name1 name2 op } {
set cmd [ list ::wait::onvar $varname $id ]
trace remove variable $varname { write unset } $cmd
}
proc vwait { varname } {
set upname [ uplevel [ list namespace which -variable $varname ] ]
if { $upname == {} } {
set upns [ uplevel [ list namespace current ] ]
if { $upns == "::" || $upns == "" } {
set upname ::$varname
} else {
set upname $upns::$varname
}
set upname ::$varname
}
# puts "---- wait $varname ( $upname )"
set varname $upname
set id [ uuid::uuid generate ]
set cmd [ list ::wait::onvar $varname $id ]
trace add variable $varname { write unset } $cmd
set tmpl [ list [ list write unset ] $cmd ]
while 1 {
after 10
update
update idletasks
set found 0
foreach record [ trace info variable $varname ] {
if { $record == $tmpl } {
set found 1
break
}
}
if { ! $found } {
return 1
}
}
return $varname
}It's not perfect, but it works